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Milk Replacer Recommendations Apprechaited
Replied Oct. 6, 2009
Milk Replacer Recommendations Apprechaited
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Started this discussion. Last reply by Emaly Leak Oct. 13, 2009.
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What a face.
That's what I thought, but I'd love to hear what you learn from Ohio State. I think we're finally out of the woods with our little girl. She's starting to gain 0.5-1.0# per day (more when she can't run around outside), so I think she's getting enoug…
Emaly,
The sooner it's given the better, but I'll check with Ohio State and see what they say - stay tuned. Barb
Barb,
Thanks for easing my worry a bit. We started weighing the cria with a more accurate scale tonight, and it appears that she's gained 0.5 lb each of the last 2 days, which is a start. She wasn't even due until this weekend, so we're going to giv…
Virginia,
I agree with Karen on the use of whole milk over milk replacer and the IgG testing. I've also added a small amount of Karo syrup (less than a teaspoon) to help with energy and warmth but only for one bottle/day for 3 days; more than that…
Emaly,
As you say, the one pound/day is a guideline. I know from working with Dr. Lakritz at Ohio State that any gain is positive and it isn't necessary to get upset if none is seen even 3-4 days after birth. Llamas are individual just as humans an…
I have a related but somewhat off-topic question, what is the minimum weight gain expected by a cria that is healthy? I know the rule of thumb is 1 lb per day, but is less gain (but still an overall gain each day) acceptable? I have a week old cria…
Transfuse him and then
I like to use Whole milk with a little milk replacer added. Easier on their stomach than milk replacer alone.
Thanks, Karen. He is nursing periodically on another Mon, but not enough. What about milk replacer, as well as plasma?
VV
Sounds like he could need a plasma transfusion, have you checked his IGG? If mom did not have much to start with he did not get much colostrum. Even if he gets enough milk now he won't thrive. That could be what he needs.
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- Buying, raising & selling high~quality llamas since 1995; including 4 Celebrity high~selling llamas. Purchased FFF Chiri~O from Victoria Miller and Jim Carter. Offering limited outside breedings to this outstanding male starting spring, 2009.
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Inadequate Milk Production
I have two cria born within two days of one another ~ one mom had lots of milk and the baby is thriving. The other mom has low milk production and the cria, at two weeks of age, is not gaining weight like the other cria. What kind of milk supplements would anyone suggest? I have never had to supplement a cria before.
Posted on October 5, 2009 at 6:50pm — 2 Comments
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- At 2:13pm on January 26, 2010,
Cheryl Frey said…
- Hi Virginia,
Good to see you. Yes staying up until almost dawn discussing llamas if great! There is always so much to discuss -we just do not know it yet!
- At 7:52am on December 16, 2009,
Lucas Fletcher said…
- Its been so long since I have seen you...I hope all is well!
- At 11:27am on September 16, 2009,
Alexa Metrick said… - Glad you are happy with the coats--we always love to hear that! I've never actually seen a suri llama in person; yours look like beautiful animals.
- At 3:23pm on May 2, 2009,
Steven Ayers said… - I am eager to see what he produces for you! Be sure to post a blog of some sort on Lama Journal when they are born and it will help promote him and his offspring. Every time you have a new cria of his born, just add to your blog. Just a thought :-)
- At 2:16pm on May 2, 2009,
Steven Ayers said…
- Hey Virginia! I didn't realize that you had purchased FFF Chiri~O from Jim and Victoria. He's a phenomenal suri male. Congrats on your purchase. I am sure he will be a great asset to your breeding program.
- At 8:01pm on March 27, 2009,
Jerry & Carolyn Ayers said… - Hi Virginia,
It was good to hear from you. We are excited about the Celebrity. This is the first time we have consigned to the sale. We hope that the economy doesn't affect the sale too much. We still talk about your reaction when Sidel brought so much at the sale. We thought you were going to pass out on stage! :) That would be a dream come true for us or any small farm to have several of the big guys fighting over your llama. Hope to see you at the show.
Jerry & Carolyn
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- At 11:24pm on March 24, 2009,
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- At 4:14pm on March 24, 2009,
Meg Steensland said… - reliable transport - Mitchell Ramsey seems to do a lot of coast to coast with stops along the way - very professional - I found him on tthe Yahoo Alpaca transport group. My correspondent in IN was also impressed with his service - cell 918-244-5132
There is also a guy in Canada out west - AB maybe Green-someting -runs ads in ICQ - only way to go if you have to do trans-border as he is set up to do this.
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